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 People of First Presbyterian Church,
 Whether you are now walking in a season of sunshine or in shadow,
 Whether you walk with friends, with strangers, or on your own,
 May you turn your tired, or hopeful, or anguished, or longing eyes

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 Whether you are now walking in a season of sunshine or in shadow,
 Whether you walk with friends, with strangers, or on your own,
-May you turn your tired, or hopeful, or angry, or longing eyes
+May you turn your tired, or hopeful, or anguished, or longing eyes
 Just as Job did, to the Guardian of Humanity,
 May your patience be always filled with passion,
 And may your prayers be always from the heart.

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	Job's friends talk about God, and then they talk to Job. Job talks about himself, but then he turns and talks to God. He yells at God. He questions God. And when God doesn't answer, Job keeps on going for another 30 chapters, yelling, questioning, and demanding an audience with the creator of the universe.		Job's friends talk about God, and then they talk to Job. Job talks about himself, but then he turns and talks to God. He yells at God. He questions God. And when God doesn't answer, Job keeps on going for another 30 chapters, yelling, questioning, and demanding an audience with the creator of the universe.

−	Job is famous for his patience, but it's not a calm and quiet patience. It's not silent or serene suffering. Job is patient because he refuses to give up. In the face of all his losses, in the face of his friends' condemnation, in the face of God's seeming absence...Job keeps praying. His prayer is beautiful, but it's not pretty. It's poetic, but it's not polite.	+	Job is famous for his patience, but it's not a calm and quiet patience. It's not silent or serene suffering. Job is patient because he simply refuses to give up. In the face of all his losses, in the face of his friends' condemnation, in the face of God's seeming absence...Job just keeps praying. His prayer is beautiful, but it's not pretty. It's poetic, but it's not polite. Instead, it is gritty, it's rash, it's melodramatic, completely over the top, and utterly, devastatingly real.
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		+	People of First Presbyterian Church,
		+	Whether you are now walking in a season of sunshine or in shadow,
		+	Whether you walk with friends, with strangers, or on your own,
		+	May you turn your tired, or hopeful, or angry, or longing eyes
		+	Just as Job did, to the Guardian of Humanity,
		+	May your patience be always filled with passion,
		+	And may your prayers be always from the heart.

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	But it never happens. God is silent. Job ends his prayer of anguish with a slew of unanswered questions: What have I done to you? Why have you done this to me? Why won't you just let me die?		But it never happens. God is silent. Job ends his prayer of anguish with a slew of unanswered questions: What have I done to you? Why have you done this to me? Why won't you just let me die?
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		+	This is the last thing I want you to remember today, about prayer and the Book of Job: The most important thing about prayer is not what you say. It's not even how you say it. It's who you say it to.
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		+	Job's friends talk about God, and then they talk to Job. Job talks about himself, but then he turns and talks to God. He yells at God. He questions God. And when God doesn't answer, Job keeps on going for another 30 chapters, yelling, questioning, and demanding an audience with the creator of the universe.
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		+	Job is famous for his patience, but it's not a calm and quiet patience. It's not silent or serene suffering. Job is patient because he refuses to give up. In the face of all his losses, in the face of his friends' condemnation, in the face of God's seeming absence...Job keeps praying. His prayer is beautiful, but it's not pretty. It's poetic, but it's not polite.

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	Three times, Job tells God, "leave me alone." And that's a very polite translation. I imagine that in Hebrew it sounded a little more forceful, like Job telling God where to go and what to do with himself. And probably Job's three friends are looking up at the sky, wondering when God is going to send down lightning from heaven to burn Job into a crisp for his insolence.		Three times, Job tells God, "leave me alone." And that's a very polite translation. I imagine that in Hebrew it sounded a little more forceful, like Job telling God where to go and what to do with himself. And probably Job's three friends are looking up at the sky, wondering when God is going to send down lightning from heaven to burn Job into a crisp for his insolence.

−	But it never happens.	+	But it never happens. God is silent. Job ends his prayer of anguish with a slew of unanswered questions: What have I done to you? Why have you done this to me? Why won't you just let me die?

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 "All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested."
+But it never happens.
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-Divide in half  friends vs. Job.

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−	You can see how that word choice is at least related to struggle, or trial, or temptation, or hard service. But it's also more specific. More...militant. As Jerome's translation (and this verse) began to catch on, influential theologians like Cassiodorus began to speak of Job as a model soldier.	+	You can see how that word choice is at least related to struggle, or trial, or temptation, or hard service. But it's also more specific. More...militant. As Jerome's translation (and this verse) began to catch on, influential theologians like Cassiodorus and Gregory the Great began to speak of Job as a model soldier, at least in an allegorical sense, in spiritual battles. With this verse in view, Job's suffering came to be seen as penitential--in other words, by undergoing spiritual warfare, Job does penance which absolves him of any sin and sets him up for a great reward in the end.
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		+	This (see image) is a 10th century illustration from a popular allegorical book in the middle ages. The army on the right represents the forces of anger. The army on the left represents the forces of patience. In the center, to the right, is Patience herself, getting ready to fight Anger. On her left, the guy with the shield, advising her? That would be General Job.
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		+	By the time we get to the 11th century, the celebration of Job's military skill, and the idea of war as penance was not just allegorical. It's not that big of a jump, perhaps, from spiritual warfare to actual warfare for "spiritual" reasons. Pope Urban II was a fan and student of Gregory the Great, and when he made his famous speech launching the first crusade, and calling all of Europe to go retake the Holy Lands from the he included this little incentive:
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		+	"All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested."
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−	~~This (see image) is an illustration from a popular allegorical book in the middle ages. The~~

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−	You can see how that word choice is at least related to struggle, or trial, or temptation, or hard service. But it's also more specific. More...militant. ~~And that~~'s ~~the~~ translation ~~that caught~~ on.	+	You can see how that word choice is at least related to struggle, or trial, or temptation, or hard service. But it's also more specific. More...militant. As Jerome's translation (and this verse) began to catch on, influential theologians like Cassiodorus began to speak of Job as a model soldier.
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		+	This (see image) is an illustration from a popular allegorical book in the middle ages. The

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	The earliest translations of Job into Greek translated this little word, צָבָא (tsaba) as peraterion or "trial." The earliest translations of Job into Latin translated it as temptatio (or temptation). But the Latin translation of the Bible that gained the most popularity and eventually became the official translation of the Roman Catholic Church (right down to the modern era) was the Vulgate, translated by Saint Jerome. And he translated that word צָבָא (tsaba) as "militia." Roughly, the verse would read, "Man's life is warfare on this earth."		The earliest translations of Job into Greek translated this little word, צָבָא (tsaba) as peraterion or "trial." The earliest translations of Job into Latin translated it as temptatio (or temptation). But the Latin translation of the Bible that gained the most popularity and eventually became the official translation of the Roman Catholic Church (right down to the modern era) was the Vulgate, translated by Saint Jerome. And he translated that word צָבָא (tsaba) as "militia." Roughly, the verse would read, "Man's life is warfare on this earth."
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	You can see how that word choice is at least related to struggle, or trial, or temptation, or hard service. But it's also more specific. More...militant. And that's the translation that caught on.		You can see how that word choice is at least related to struggle, or trial, or temptation, or hard service. But it's also more specific. More...militant. And that's the translation that caught on.


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